Comments on: Gay Bar In Chicagoland Now Requires Crossdressers to Have Female IDs http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/ Official Transgender Crossdresser Website Blog of Comedian Jessica De Leon Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:38:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 Jessica De Leon Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:45:55 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1140 The Trib reported on this Monday, so it may be a brand new policy as of this week. If you happen to get in to Hunter's again or if you hear anything new about the rule please let me know :) The Trib reported on this Monday, so it may be a brand new policy as of this week. If you happen to get in to Hunter’s again or if you hear anything new about the rule please let me know :)

]]> By: Brit http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1136 Brit Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:10:59 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1136 I was at hunters on saturday, I had no problems going in with my normal ID. I heard about this somewhere else to. I don't know where it got started, but they didn't give me any problems at all. I was at hunters on saturday, I had no problems going in with my normal ID. I heard about this somewhere else to. I don’t know where it got started, but they didn’t give me any problems at all.

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1139 Jessica De Leon Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:17:56 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1139 Yes, this is a total rights violation and it's funny as several people have brought up the Halloween scenario. If they have customers coming in with werewolf, witch and superhero costumes are they going to requiring matching IDs? According to their policy they must, lol. I'm also sick of being portrayed as a deviant. Glad this post got you thinking and thanks for the comment TGBarbie :) Yes, this is a total rights violation and it’s funny as several people have brought up the Halloween scenario. If they have customers coming in with werewolf, witch and superhero costumes are they going to requiring matching IDs? According to their policy they must, lol.

I’m also sick of being portrayed as a deviant.

Glad this post got you thinking and thanks for the comment TGBarbie :)

]]> By: TGBarbie http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1130 TGBarbie Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:16:15 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1130 isnt that a violation of civil rights? race, ethnicity, "sex" how can they say get a new id for 1 group but not another based on gender? first of all most tg dont tell someone on a first date out of fear of being hurt so these dipsticks want to force people to "match" their id's and some guy asks me out and we get to the door where the person asks for my id (which says f per their rule) my "date" sees this isnt that putting me "us" @ more risk if it gets to a point where i want the relationship to go to the next step? (im not sure whos seen a girl like me the Gwen Araujo story or boys dont cry) but in both movies (which are true) the victims Brandon & Gwen were both portrayed as sexual deviants preying on individuals that "snapped" out of sheer suprise of the victims gender! while neither tried to lie (as we are who we are and we tell who WE want WHEN were ready) and were not lying were protecting ourselves not to mention some of us (as i cant speak for everybody) feel (i know) that we were born to the wrong body, but a "straight" man isnt going to understand that yet they (this bar) want to make us show a different id so if they are phsyco's they can have proof "we" were trying to "fool "them? also somebody should inform these fools that some gay men that dress like men prostitute themselves sometimes too.... ok im rambling yet again so thats all.... But once again Jessica you gave me something to think (and get mad) about lol... but thinking is good isnt that a violation of civil rights? race, ethnicity, “sex” how can they say get a new id for 1 group but not another based on gender? first of all most tg dont tell someone on a first date out of fear of being hurt so these dipsticks want to force people to “match” their id’s and some guy asks me out and we get to the door where the person asks for my id (which says f per their rule) my “date” sees this isnt that putting me “us”
@ more risk if it gets to a point where i want the relationship to go to the next step? (im not sure whos seen a girl like me the Gwen Araujo story or boys dont cry) but in both movies (which are true) the victims
Brandon & Gwen were both portrayed as sexual deviants preying on individuals that “snapped” out of sheer suprise of the victims gender!
while neither tried to lie (as we are who we are and we tell who WE want
WHEN were ready) and were not lying were protecting ourselves not to mention some of us (as i cant speak for everybody) feel (i know) that we were born to the wrong body, but a “straight” man isnt going to understand that yet they (this bar) want to make us show a different id so if they are phsyco’s they can have proof “we” were trying to
“fool “them? also somebody should inform these fools that some gay men that dress like men prostitute themselves sometimes too….
ok im rambling yet again so thats all….
But once again Jessica you gave me something to think (and get mad)
about lol… but thinking is good

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1128 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:44:53 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1128 No problem, I am happy to report on things that affect us directly. No problem, I am happy to report on things that affect us directly.

]]> By: Zoë http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1126 Zoë Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:38:39 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1126 I'm glad you brought this to our attention. As much as I want to change my id to match, California state law says I cannot until I have a physician state I have had the appropriate surgery. IF, I do that, it will be many years from now...so in the mean time, when in Chicago, I'll visit other more T-friendly places than Hunter's. Thanks for the heads up! I’m glad you brought this to our attention. As much as I want to change my id to match, California state law says I cannot until I have a physician state I have had the appropriate surgery. IF, I do that, it will be many years from now…so in the mean time, when in Chicago, I’ll visit other more T-friendly places than Hunter’s. Thanks for the heads up!

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1127 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:27:04 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1127 LOL, good one :) LOL, good one :)

]]> By: Madtexter http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1125 Madtexter Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:26:36 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1125 Agreed. In addition, maybe Illinois ought to issue alternative photos for state legislature members who switch faces when they buy/sell votes & senate seats. Agreed. In addition, maybe Illinois ought to issue alternative photos for state legislature members who switch faces when they buy/sell votes & senate seats.

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1124 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:44:15 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1124 It is discriminatory and truly makes no sense in what they say they are trying to accomplish. Maybe the owner watched one too many Jerry Springer episodes, like you say. It is discriminatory and truly makes no sense in what they say they are trying to accomplish. Maybe the owner watched one too many Jerry Springer episodes, like you say.

]]> By: jennifer http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1120 jennifer Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:28:46 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1120 I think the place should be boycotted by the whole LGBT community until this policy is discontinued. This is so discriminatory. The problem they have is with some Prostitutes, yet they are not dealing with that, they are trying to keep out all transgendered people on the assumption that we must all be prostitutes. What “educational shows” do they have on the bar’s TV? Jerry Springer? DR. Phil? Fox news? We need to send the message to everyone to stop sexualizing us!!!!! I think the place should be boycotted by the whole LGBT community until this policy is discontinued.

This is so discriminatory. The problem they have is with some Prostitutes, yet they are not dealing with that, they are trying to keep out all transgendered people on the assumption that we must all be prostitutes.

What “educational shows” do they have on the bar’s TV? Jerry Springer? DR. Phil? Fox news?

We need to send the message to everyone to stop sexualizing us!!!!!

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1123 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:21:04 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1123 They are going to lose business and get lots of bad publicity. They are going to lose business and get lots of bad publicity.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1119 Ellen Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:20:22 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1119 In the annals of human history, there are not too many more ingnorant decisions made than this. Loss of business that will likely never return, total embarassment for the many TG's and for what? the real issue will likely not be challenged significantly. Can you say fake ID? Not addressing the safety issue at all. The poor TG's will have to find new venues- some by trail and error. The problem lies with error. Safety? Whos? I don't think so. In the annals of human history, there are not too many more ingnorant decisions made than this. Loss of business that will likely never return, total embarassment for the many TG’s and for what? the real issue will likely not be challenged significantly. Can you say fake ID? Not addressing the safety issue at all. The poor TG’s will have to find new venues- some by trail and error. The problem lies with error. Safety? Whos? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1121 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:08:37 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1121 :) Good analogy. :) Good analogy.

]]> By: Tiresias Girl http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1117 Tiresias Girl Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:07:00 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1117 I agree, it's a silly rule, and it sounds like the bar management didn't think it through clearly. In an attempt to solve one problem, they created a bigger one, kind of like the old woman who swallowed the spider to catch the fly. I agree, it’s a silly rule, and it sounds like the bar management didn’t think it through clearly. In an attempt to solve one problem, they created a bigger one, kind of like the old woman who swallowed the spider to catch the fly.

]]> By: Jessica De Leon http://www.jessica-who.com/2009/09/gay-bar-crossdresser-ids/comment-page-1/#comment-1116 Jessica De Leon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:19:19 +0000 http://www.jessica-who.com/?p=1371#comment-1116 Yea, it is a shame too, because it's difficult enough for trans people to work up the nerve to go out sometimes. I have a feeling that this rule will be reversed very soon. Yea, it is a shame too, because it’s difficult enough for trans people to work up the nerve to go out sometimes. I have a feeling that this rule will be reversed very soon.

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